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mercman from oz 06-16-2014 07:38 AM

1954 Ford Park Lamps - different?
 

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While having a cleanup today, I came across this pair of NOS Park Lamps for a 1954 Ford. If you look at picture 5857, you can see that they are identical from this side. However, when I turn them upside down, refer to photo 5858 they have completely different mounting tabs. Did Ford change the design sometime during production? The Part Numbers are printed on the respective boxes.
Can both of these Lamps be used on the same car, or will one have to be exchanged so that it fits the 54 Ford?

Ole Don 06-16-2014 08:53 AM

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The lenses are the same, but the housings bolt to the grille so they must be left and right.

carguy01 06-16-2014 10:57 AM

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I'mpositive they are left and right side

mercman from oz 06-16-2014 07:35 PM

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These Lights are Left & Right, & the Boxes list them as Left & Right, however, they are different.
If you look at the picture 5857, you will see that each light has two Tabs on the inside where they attach to the Grille. However, if you look at picture 5858. you will see that the light on the right has these Tabs, but the one on the left does not?
My question is did Ford alter this part, part way through the model year?
It would appear that one light is early production, & the other late production?
So, they are definitely Right & Left but vary from each other in the Mounting application.
Can anyone help with my question?

mercman from oz 06-16-2014 09:11 PM

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Just to clarify this issue, I have taken two more photos. If you look at the light on the left in both photos, you can see that there are 2 castings where you can attache a bolt into, which are not in the light on the right, which has the mountings on the side. All very confusing? Can anyone shed any light on this issue?

JeffB2 06-17-2014 03:12 AM

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Probably these guys: www.1954ford.com

mercman from oz 03-29-2015 08:25 PM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attach...mp;d=140292180https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attach...mp;d=140292180https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attach...mp;d=140297102https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attach...mp;d=140297102
I have enlarged these photos of my Mismatched pair of 1954 Ford Parking Lights. If you compare the photos, you will see that they both have a different mounting system. Maybe this Part was updated during production, and I ended up with a mismatched pair? If you look at the top photo, they both look identical in this view, but turn them upside down & the difference becomes apparent. The inside mounts attach in a different way? It is a mystery.

54vicky 03-30-2015 09:37 AM

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I just check 8 pair I have not counting the pair on car.the mounting tabs are all the same on both.one pair of the tabs mount to center grille bar the other pair mount the fender(grille extension)that wrap around the leading edge of fender.from pics it looks as if for some reason the left one in #7 appears that the center grille bar uses a different mounting method.at first glance I thought it was modified by someone.but it does not appear that it would have been done by a person without recasting as it has what looks to have 2 mounting(bolt towers)cast that would attach to center grille bar.I wonder if it was a mod to Aussie built grille it would be interesting to find a center grille bar with that method of attaching.can you find a 1954 Aussie ford body parts manual?I have 2 different one 1 is dated 1954 the other dated 1956 and both show the same as the ones I have.actually I have several of each date.I also have some Canadian manuals I will dig out to check athough I think they will show the same as US.if you can find manuals check for printing date.I know they used some sheet metal for several years after our model changes 54 to 55-56 etc.I wonder if they used that style of grille down there and that possibly they made a production change.it would have with change it would have made it easier to bolt together?I just took another look at pics and noticed the ford-windsor markings on boxes.this will be interesting if any info uncovered

mercman from oz 03-30-2015 05:48 PM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attach...mp;d=140292180
54vicky, As you correctly stated the original Cartons are stamped Ford Windsor, so they are definitely Canadian/American Origin. Ford Australia never made complicated parts like these, as the cost of making them here would have been out of the question. It is very strange that they have 2 different mounting arrangements. One has to be an updated version. All very strange.

54vicky 03-31-2015 09:03 AM

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I forgot to take my meds today and did not realize you had pics posted under this heading and put a post on canadian ford merc differences people missing this and reading that post will wonder what the h=ll I was saying.so here are pics showing how our(at least the 8 sets I have look as to mounting to grillle center bar)hopefully Alan Freeman as well as others will have some info on the unusual mounting of the left one in Mercmans pics.I do not think canadian parts would be different but most info (parts books etc are american as my vicky is american)this should be interesting in over 40 years gathering parts for my 54 I have never seen this before it looks to neat to be something butchered up as mounting post are cast in them which would mean modify ing originals casting plating etc,

54vicky 03-31-2015 11:32 AM

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I finally found one of my canadian body manual from october 1954 and from assembly pics they show the exact same as american ones I have.the meteor are the same.possibly later production change?

54vicky 04-07-2015 08:17 AM

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