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hardtimes 04-20-2012 12:52 AM

pressure plate options Q...
 

Anyone using a 'diaphram' type pressure plate in a model A/B? Any problem and/or benefits to it over, say...ford with counter weights?

James Rogers 04-20-2012 04:46 AM

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What are you looking for in a different plate? Better clamp? Less pedal pressure? You know the 8BA used a 10" clutch and plate to match. The small block Chevy used a 9/10/11" clutch and plate to match. I think Joe Way uses the diaphram plate in his conversion as could I.

2manycars 04-20-2012 05:21 AM

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The advantage I see in a diaphragm clutch is that there is less pressure required to hold the clutch fully disengaged. I see this as an advantage in less foot pressure and therefore easier on our old knees, and less pressure on the crankshaft thrust bearing.

Tom Wesenberg 04-20-2012 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 2manycars (Post 409979)
The advantage I see in a diaphragm clutch is that there is less pressure required to hold the clutch fully disengaged. I see this as an advantage in less foot pressure and therefore easier on our old knees, and less pressure on the crankshaft thrust bearing.

I agree!
I'm OK with my Model A stock clutch, but I must say that when I drive my friend's 49 Chevy pickup, that cluch is a real pleasure to operate, and I wish it was in my Model A.:)

James Rogers 04-20-2012 07:05 AM

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I never hold the clutch even waiting at a light. Holding the clutch in puts pressure on the rear thrust and will deteriorate it sooner than just shifting to neutral.

Jim Brierley 04-20-2012 10:21 AM

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I recently put one in my tudor. It is much smoother than the stock clutch that was in the car when I bought it and also smoother than the V8 clutch that I had put in. It does have a slightly odd feel to it but worth the change. Like James, I don't hold it down at stop signals.

hardtimes 04-20-2012 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by James Rogers (Post 409966)
What are you looking for in a different plate? Better clamp? Less pedal pressure? You know the 8BA used a 10" clutch and plate to match. The small block Chevy used a 9/10/11" clutch and plate to match. I think Joe Way uses the diaphram plate in his conversion as could I.

Both..'better clamp' and more importantly 'less pedal pressure'...as have had operations on both knees and not getting better with age:o !

hardtimes 04-20-2012 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Brierley (Post 410136)
I recently put one in my tudor. It is much smoother than the stock clutch that was in the car when I bought it and also smoother than the V8 clutch that I had put in. It does have a slightly odd feel to it but worth the change. Like James, I don't hold it down at stop signals.

Ok, so what make/model # should I be looking for:confused:

Observation
POSITIVES: regarding diaphram type vs finger(s) type. I'm not an engineer, but common sense tells me that the 'multiple' contacts of a diaphram pressure plate would be easier on the throwout bearing(i.e.-distrubuting force); would provide better mechanical advantage(ergo less leg power necessary), more even pressure/less wear on clutch disc.

Negative: the 'counter weights' on the three finger pressure plate provide MORE pressure (centrifugal force) on the disc...as rpms increase. Better clamping force? Whereas , diaphram type doesn't have counter weights.
Am I wrong in my observations?

john in illinois 04-20-2012 01:25 PM

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I have thought about this. Here is a link to a post by Joe Way.

LINK http://originalmodelaparts.com/DiaphragmClutch.htm

CarlG 04-20-2012 01:29 PM

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I have one of the diaphram type PP going in my rig this weekend.

hardtimes 04-20-2012 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlG (Post 410227)
I have one of the diaphram type PP going in my rig this weekend.

OK! So WHAT IS THE MAKE/MODEL #, eh or is that secret of speed stuff:D !

Oooops, forgot to mention that my installation will be on a B engine..if that matters, not A setup.

hardtimes 04-20-2012 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by john in illinois (Post 410224)
I have thought about this. Here is a link to a post by Joe Way.

LINK http://originalmodelaparts.com/DiaphragmClutch.htm

John,
Thanks for that! Interesting reading:)!

CarlG 04-20-2012 02:08 PM

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Previous thread on this subject:
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showth...late&showall=1

Picture of the PP I'm installing is #28 on the above thread.

hardtimes 04-20-2012 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlG (Post 410244)
Previous thread on this subject:
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showth...late&showall=1

Picture of the PP I'm installing is #28 on the above thread.

Hey Carl,
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking about! Thanks:) And, thanks for the PM.


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