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Nlbloch 04-28-2013 11:54 AM

Radiator cleaning
 

I have read numerous posts about cleaning the radiator with vinegar. Why not use a commercial radiator flush such as made by Peak? Is this a cost issue, performance question or is Peak to harsh for an old radiator?

If rush is the primary culprit, how about using CLR?

Rock Hornbuckle 04-28-2013 12:04 PM

Re: Radiator cleaning
 

If I need something stronger than vinegar, I will take the radiator to a radiator shop and have it proffessionally flushed and then pressure tested for leaks. The cost the last time for me was $50. Be sure to use a reputable shop that won't try to con you into a new one when yours is still good.

ursus 04-28-2013 12:34 PM

Re: Radiator cleaning
 

Note that the Model A does not have a pressurized cooling system! By the time that radiator shop has pressure tested your radiator it may well have a lot of leaks that weren't there before. Then they will sell you on a recoring job for several hundred bucks and install the top an bottom tanks incorrectly so the radiator shell doesn't fit right, etc. etc.

sidhartha 04-28-2013 12:45 PM

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It tried to clean mine with CLR and it didn't do much for it. Ended up I had it boiled out at a radiator shop for $65.00.

BILL WILLIAMSON 04-28-2013 12:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sidhartha (Post 640991)
It tried to clean mine with CLR and it didn't do much for it. Ended up I had it boiled out at a radiator shop for $65.00.

Yes, Sid, CLR is grossly overated! For greasy coating, I used TSP, (tri sodium phosphate) & it did well and it didn't FOAM!
Chief mentioned the use of Vinegar in the "OLD" days for rust & calcium deposits & kerosene for greasy deposits. Bill W.

Tom Wesenberg 04-28-2013 02:01 PM

Re: Radiator cleaning
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nlbloch (Post 640957)
I have read numerous posts about cleaning the radiator with vinegar. Why not use a commercial radiator flush such as made by Peak? Is this a cost issue, performance question or is Peak to harsh for an old radiator?

If rush is the primary culprit, how about using CLR?

I tried a couple of those commercial radiator flush products, and they didn't help. For only about $7 for 3 gallons of pure white vinegar, and running it for 30 days did the trick for me. It sure got rid of a lot of rust.:)

Nlbloch 04-28-2013 02:24 PM

Re: Radiator cleaning
 

I'm convinced. Will try vinegar and post my results.

FL&WVMIKE 04-28-2013 07:20 PM

Re: Radiator cleaning
 

Nlbloch ....................
The EPA has put such restrictions on commercial radiator cleaners, that it is practacaly useless now. It is not your father's radiator cleaner.
Vinegar is not harmful to the environment either. It works great. Just run it for a couple weeks, or so. You wil be amazed at what flushes out.
MIKE :)

BashawT 04-28-2013 07:27 PM

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Anyone know of any places near Green Bay, WI that will boil out a radiator?

noboD 04-28-2013 07:31 PM

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You can buy lye crystals at a good hardware store. That is the same thing radiator shops use.

Rock Hornbuckle 04-28-2013 09:03 PM

Re: Radiator cleaning
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by ursus (Post 640982)
Note that the Model A does not have a pressurized cooling system! By the time that radiator shop has pressure tested your radiator it may well have a lot of leaks that weren't there before. Then they will sell you on a recoring job for several hundred bucks and install the top an bottom tanks incorrectly so the radiator shell doesn't fit right, etc. etc.

I agree, most shops might do just that.:mad:

I have had mine pressure tested to 15 .lbs with no leaks. But, the shop is owned by a long time friend of over 40 years. I know the A was designed without a pressurized cooling system, but that doesn't mean you must keep it that way. Water boils at a higher temperature under pressure, therefor making the cooling sytem more efficient. :)

roccaas 04-28-2013 09:15 PM

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I built the two PCV adapters in "The Restorer" a few months back.

They do push a lot of rust and gunk backwards through both the block and the radiator after a 1 week vinegar run. I didn't have the guts to try the kerosene.

Running full distilled and some Water Wetter for corrosion protection, the Rexaco certainly shows a few degrees cooler running, but we haven't gotten to August yet...

Classiccanuck 04-29-2013 11:16 AM

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I used Borax, block the inlet and outlet, hot water and a box of Borax, fill the rad and put the cap on, 24 hrs latter, run hot water through to flush out rad. Worked great for me!

Bob Johnson 04-29-2013 11:42 AM

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You father's radiator cleaner contained oxalic acid and sodium bicarbinate. It came in a 2 part container. The oxalic acid was used to clean the radiator and the sodium bicarbonate was used to neutralize the ocalic acid after the flush. Sodium bicarbonate is baking soda which can be found at most grocery stores. Oxalic acid can be found a most hardware / home improvement stores, it is used to bleach wood decks.

The procedure was:

Drain radiator
Fill radiator with water and about 1/2 - 1 cup oxalic acid, be careful with acid
Start engine and run until normal operating temperature is achieved
Idle or drive around for 1/2 to 1 hour
Drain radiator
Flush with water
Fill radiator with water and 1/2 cup of sodium bicarbonate
Start engine and run until water is well mixed
Drain radiator
Flush radiator
Fill radiator with coolant.

WARNING Oxalic acid is a mild acid but it can still harm skin and eyes. WEAR rubber gloves and eye protection when using oxalic acid.


Bob


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