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cpldale 04-23-2024 11:57 AM

Brake drum question
 

I bought what I was told were 46-48 front and rear brake drums with hubs. The drums were out of spec so I used a 5/8 hole saw to remove the the studs and separate the drums from the hubs. So far, so good. I went to order replacement drums and realized the center hole in the replacement drum is 3 1/4". The center hole in the old drums is 4". Not sure what I have. Any thoughts?

Mart 04-23-2024 12:48 PM

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On earlier hubs and drums the drum fits over the hub. On later assemblies the drum fits on the inside of the hub. The drums are different. I think the early ones have the smaller ones and the later ones have the larger hole.

V8COOPMAN 04-23-2024 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cpldale (Post 2306377)
I bought what I was told were 46-48 front and rear brake drums with hubs. The drums were out of spec so I used a 5/8 hole saw to remove the the studs and separate the drums from the hubs. So far, so good. I went to order replacement drums and realized the center hole in the replacement drum is 3 1/4". The center hole in the old drums is 4". Not sure what I have. Any thoughts?

There is NO workable replacement for the late style ('42 - '48) brake drums which fit INSIDE the hub. Only reasonable replacement consideration is Boling Bros. early drum mounted on an early hub, which is dimensionally viable to replace the later version.

Coop


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Ggmac 04-23-2024 03:45 PM

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Good to see you here Coop !

V8COOPMAN 04-23-2024 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ggmac (Post 2306414)
Good to see you here Coop !

Thanks, Bud! I'm moving along one day at a time here.

DD/Coopman


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T Scott 04-23-2024 10:51 PM

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An option, although maybe a little late in your case, is to have the drums relined and brought back within specification. J&G Relining in Mc Henry, IL. are the guys for this kind of thing.

Mart 04-24-2024 05:13 AM

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Ecklers have the later drums but holy --- they are expensive.

V8COOPMAN 04-24-2024 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mart (Post 2306525)
Ecklers have the later drums but holy --- they are expensive.


Don't get me started about Ecklers. My peev with them goes back to the early 1990s with Corvettes. They're in it for the money, and good at that, for sure!! No improvement since that time. Example - the "Mac's" fiasco.

Coop


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Randy in ca 04-24-2024 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mart (Post 2306525)
Ecklers have the later drums but holy --- they are expensive.

Good to know anyways that they are at least available now. Maybe won't be long before others are selling them and maybe at a lesser price.

Anybody know who they're made by? Anybody tried them?

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30Murray 04-25-2024 08:21 PM

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C&G Ford parts has the drums.

V8COOPMAN 04-26-2024 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 30Murray (Post 2306925)
C&G Ford parts has the drums.


C&G has a bolt-on replacement drum for the '46-'48 drum on '46-'48 hub?

Coop


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rich b 04-26-2024 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN (Post 2307047)
C&G has a bolt-on replacement drum for the '46-'48 drum on '46-'48 hub?

Coop


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They do and at a better price than Eklers; but curious about where they come

from (Argentina?) and if they more accurately machined than the ones that

were available previously.


https://cgfordparts.com/rear-brake-d...ml#description

Randy in ca 04-27-2024 02:53 AM

Re: Brake drum question
 

Just today discovered that Bert's in Denver also has them listed for a much lower price ($150) than the others above:

A-2520-B BRAKE DRUM CAST IRON USA MADE 1942-1948 FORDS

The picture they show with these is the same generic one as shown for the 40-41's they show a different part number for. They're not open until Tuesday now when I'll try to confirm that these have the correct 4" center opening.

https://modelastore.com/hydraulic-br...oduct_id=18538

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V8COOPMAN 04-27-2024 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy in ca (Post 2307135)
Just today discovered that Bert's in Denver also has them listed for a much lower price ($150) than the others above:

A-2520-B BRAKE DRUM CAST IRON USA MADE 1942-1948 FORDS

The picture they show with these is the same generic one as shown for the 40-41's they show a different part number for. They're not open until Tuesday now when I'll try to confirm that these have the correct 4" center opening.

https://modelastore.com/hydraulic-br...oduct_id=18538

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Hurray for Bert's! It is disgusting the number of folks that don't mind hiking the price of a simple part by $100 or more beyond what is necessary to cover costs and make a small profit ..... A sorry lot!

Coop


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Randy in ca 04-29-2024 05:50 PM

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Got an email back from Steve at Bert's today:

"Yes, these 42-48 drums have 4" hole for use with hub mounted on the outside of the drum, unlike earlier ones mounted behind the drum".
Steve

65f100 04-29-2024 06:43 PM

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do these drums and hubs need to be held together same as the model A

cas3 04-30-2024 12:56 PM

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I will guess that the studs hold the drum on the hub as originally done with the drum behind style. I have one car with the early 40 style drum over the hub that I can run the drum loose as like a modern car does with no trouble

Randy in ca 05-01-2024 12:32 AM

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Bert's also lists splined studs to use with the 4" center hole drum. Not mentioned whether the stud holes need to be reamed a little larger or if they're correct as is. Alternately one can use the original style of studs which would need swaging to hold them in place.

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