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johnbuckley 11-01-2011 11:41 AM

Re: 12 volt or 6 volt coil how to tell difference
 

Ok you lot, Slow witted limey here... most of us have kicking around our workshops a variety of coils like this....
a) coils for 12 volt non ballasted ignition circuits, b) coils for 6 volt ignition circuits, c) coils for 12 volt ignition circuits with a ballast resistor. d) so-called sports coils for 12 volt circuits.
Can we get a definitive answer between us as to how to identify each of them?

Dave in Boise 11-01-2011 11:59 AM

Re: 12 volt or 6 volt coil how to tell difference
 

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Originally Posted by johnbuckley (Post 298872)
Ok you lot, Slow witted limey here... most of us have kicking around our workshops a variety of coils like this....
a) coils for 12 volt non ballasted ignition circuits, b) coils for 6 volt ignition circuits, c) coils for 12 volt ignition circuits with a ballast resistor. d) so-called sports coils for 12 volt circuits.
Can we get a definitive answer between us as to how to identify each of them?

Here's my take.. Very simple

a) coils for 12 volt non ballasted ignition circuits ---- will show 12 v out when put from one terminal to the other
b) coils for 6 volt ignition circuits ---- will show 6v out when 12v is put in one side
c) coils for 12 volt ignition circuits with a ballast resistor ---- will show 6v out when 12v is put in one side due to the internal resistor
d) so-called sports coils for 12 volt circuits ---- will show 12 v out when put from one terminal to the other.

Hope this Helps.

Dave

Tom Wesenberg 11-01-2011 10:22 PM

Re: 12 volt or 6 volt coil how to tell difference
 

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Originally Posted by Dave in Boise (Post 298877)
Here's my take.. Very simple

a) coils for 12 volt non ballasted ignition circuits ---- will show 12 v out when put from one terminal to the other
b) coils for 6 volt ignition circuits ---- will show 6v out when 12v is put in one side
c) coils for 12 volt ignition circuits with a ballast resistor ---- will show 6v out when 12v is put in one side due to the internal resistor
d) so-called sports coils for 12 volt circuits ---- will show 12 v out when put from one terminal to the other.

Hope this Helps.

Dave

You need current flow to get a voltage drop. If you apply x volts in you will get x volts out without current flow.

I find 12 volt coils are marked 12 volts on the case, but this still doesn't tell you if it should have an external resistor. I'd connect the voltage across the 2 primary termianls to determin if it needs an external resistor. If the coil draws about 3 to 4 amps then it shouldn't need an external resistor. If it draws more amps, then add a resistor to bring the current draw down to 3 to 4 amps.

BTW, the markings "DIST" and "BAT" on the coil primary termianls are useless unless you know what the coil was built for as far as battery ground.

MrTube 11-02-2011 08:21 AM

Re: 12 volt or 6 volt coil how to tell difference
 

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Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg (Post 299272)
You need current flow to get a voltage drop. If you apply x volts in you will get x volts out without current flow.

I find 12 volt coils are marked 12 volts on the case, but this still doesn't tell you if it should have an external resistor. I'd connect the voltage across the 2 primary termianls to determin if it needs an external resistor. If the coil draws about 3 to 4 amps then it shouldn't need an external resistor. If it draws more amps, then add a resistor to bring the current draw down to 3 to 4 amps.

BTW, the markings "DIST" and "BAT" on the coil primary termianls are useless unless you know what the coil was built for as far as battery ground.

So does this all mean its just easier for most people to throw out unknown coils and simply buy a coil for the proper application?

johnbuckley 11-02-2011 09:34 AM

Re: 12 volt or 6 volt coil how to tell difference
 

Succintly.... YES!

Tom Wesenberg 11-02-2011 10:40 AM

Re: 12 volt or 6 volt coil how to tell difference
 

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Originally Posted by MrTube (Post 299421)
So does this all mean its just easier for most people to throw out unknown coils and simply buy a coil for the proper application?

No, as it's easy to check coil polarity, as has been posted on the internet by the Chicagoland MG club.

I know a lot of people consider changing parts the easiest way to go, but it isn't the cheapest way to fix the problem and often leads to more problems.

http://www.chicagolandmgclub.com/tec...neral/574.html

johnbuckley 11-02-2011 11:47 AM

Re: 12 volt or 6 volt coil how to tell difference
 

Aaaaah Tom, you've started us coil polarity again, you cad!

RonC 11-02-2011 12:03 PM

Re: 12 volt or 6 volt coil how to tell difference
 

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Originally Posted by MrTube (Post 299421)
So does this all mean its just easier for most people to throw out unknown coils and simply buy a coil for the proper application?


A brand new 6 volt coil at autozone costs only $16.00. I guess it depends on what your time is worth expecially if that kicking around coil quits during your next tour.


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